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The 2010 Philadelphia Phillies

2010 is already shaping up for the Phillies to be the class of the National League. After losing the World Series in 2009, the Phillies GM Ruben Amaro, Jr. (RAJ) reloaded this squad with the intent of listening to co-owner John Middleton. To paraphrase, “I want my *%$!#@! trophy back.” I guess Mr. Middleton was a little upset at now repeating as World Champs. So were the rest of us, John, so were the rest of us.

RAJ did not hesitate lasting only a few weeks before acquiring arguably the best starting pitcher in baseball today, Roy Halladay. Fans drooled over the thought of a rotation with Halladay, Lee, and Hamels at the top. The fans were printing World Series Champs shirts weeks after the heart break of letting one slip away. Then the other shoe dropped. Cliff Lee, in a deal that prevented the two from being on the team at the same time, was dealt to the Seattle Mariners for a handful of AA prospects. The media raged. The fans in an uproar. The masses pressed the commitment of the ownership for nine million dollars for the best rotation in baseball. At the jump, I understood the complexity of the deal.

The Phillies knew that Cliff Lee wasn’t going to take a low ball offer. Lee was going to be a premier free agent after the 2010 season and he was intent on setting up his family for life with one good payday. On the other side, Roy Halladay made his money in Toronto. Now it was about winning. He saw the Phillies as a winning team and the best chance at the two things he covets most: A playoff appearance and more importantly, a World Series Championship Ring.

So with Cliff Lee not willing to give a discount, Halladay signed on and Lee was sent packing to Seattle for two quality pitchers and a speedy outfielder. Again the fans and media alike questioned the deal. None of these players are of the ilk of the players we gave up. But they did have two things going for them.

They were going to be closer to MLB ready faster than any player(s) the Phillies would acquire for Lee in draft compensation and were the players given up really going to be that missed. Drabek, yes. Taylor, yes. But of the remaining players given (Donald, Marson, Knapp, Carrasco, and D’Arnaud), I would say no. D’Arnaud and Knapp are both top 100 prospects by Baseball America but both are still 2-3 years away. Carrasco, while ready, seems to be a younger version of Oliver Perez. A guy who has a lot of talent, but has problems between the ears. Donald and Marson would have filled needs this year on the team in the same capacity as they will probably be used in Cleveland, a super sub and a back up catcher repsectively. Keep in mind though that we did acquire Ben Francisco in the deal was a contributing player in 2009.

Goodbye Feliz, Stairs, E-Brunt, and Bako. Hello Polanco, Gload, Schneider, and Castro. With Polanco, a more natural number two hitter, the Phillies gave Manuel the freedom to play with his lineup a little more and put Victorino down in the seven hole. All were definite upgrades at hitting. The Phillies learned a valuable lesson from teams that won before them. If you want to beat an AL team, you need to be built like an AL team

Fast forward to the present and the only story lines left for spring are: Will Jamie Moyer fend off Kyle Kendrick for the number 5 spot in the rotation and who will be the LHP out of the pen until JC Romero returns?

As far as the fifth spot in the rotation goes, I believe it is Moyer’s to lose. Moyer was a valuable starting pitcher for this organization in the 2008 championship season. He had a string of 14 consecutive quality starts. He was the team leader in wins even with Cole Hamels on the staff.

Kendrick looks to be the odd man out for two reasons. One, Moyer makes a base salary of eight million dollars, whereas Kendrick would be making less than ten percent of that. The second reason is simply about what to do with Moyer if he is not in the rotation.

Moyer is definitely not a suitable LHer out of the pen for a full season. If he didn’t have negative trade value, he wouldn’t have any value at all. The other option is to cut Moyer. That would bring the total for monies owed to players not on the roster to about ten million dollars. That includes money owed to Geoff Jenkins, Pedro Feliz, and Adam Eaton.

So with Kendrick having an option to the minors available, I’d prefer to see him remain a starter at AAA to keep getting steady work. If Moyer can keep Kendrick at bay, he is doing his job and there is nothing to worry about.

As far as the left handed reliever is concerned, Antonio Bastardo is the guy with the shot right now. Charlie like him so much last season, he actually got into the playoffs. The Phillies also have options internally if it seems like Bastardo is ineffective in Zagurski and Escalona. To be honest, I’d prefer that Bastardo return to AA or AAA and work on being a starter as opposed to a reliever.I’ve read and heard multiple comparisons of Bastardos and Santanas stuff. They could also acquire or sign for a lefty.

With the additions that RAJ made this offseason, I have no reason to believe, that, if healthy, the Phillies shouldn’t win 95+ games this season easily. That the Phillies four-peat as National League East Champions and the Phillies head to the World Series for the third straight season. 

Aces are WILD!

What a wild week for the Philadelphia Phillies. In one day, they traded for AND traded away a Cy Young award winner. Yes, my friends as you may know by now Roy Halladay is officially a Phillie. Thanks to Cliff Lee for the work he did while here. The bigger question among fans was why? Why couldn’t the 2010 iteration of the Philadelphia Phillies have 3 ACES? For as much as we heard either money or baseball decisions, I believe it to be baseball related.

Most fans look at the roster and say wow Cliff Lee AND Roy Halladay AND Cole Hamels. We just won the World Series! But for the rest of us who live and die with the Phils, we know better. We gave up two really good prospects for Halladay, and we needed some back to continue to be able to get younger in the future or to make trades as well.

Please do not look at what we gave up for Halladay and even try to compare to what we got for Lee. They were two completely different situations. I want to start with the simple question of what did we give up for Lee? Carrasco, Donald, Marson, and Knapp. Knapp was the centerpiece. He was one of very few power arms in the system. He is at minimum probably another three years away from even sniffing the Cleveland bullpen. Marson and Donald would have been bench players for years to come. Carrasco, in my opinion, is a younger version of Oliver Perez. He has great stuff, but is a head case. He’ll either strike out 12 or he’ll walk 12. Everyone around said that for what we gave up, the Lee deal was highway robbery.

What did we get back for Lee? Aumont, Ramirez, and Gillies. Two were going to be in Seattle’s top 5 prospects. People are saying that we got fleeced for this deal. Aumont is comprable to Knapp. Ramirez is a reasonable comparison to Drabek. Gillies is better than Donald or Marson. All three will start the season in AA Reading.

What you need to pay attention to is just the Lee deals. What we got for Lee is miles better than what we gave up for him. Aumont, Ramirez, Gillies, and Ben Francisco for Carrasco, Marson, Donald, and Knapp. Three minor leaguers and a MLB ready OFer for four minor leaguers is a solid trade any day of the week.

Act one goes to Destiny!

If pitching a complete game is a gem, what Cliff Lee did last night was the Hope Diamond. Not one walk. He was, to steal a line from Stu Scott, as cool as the other side of the pillow. On the offensive side of the ball, Chase Utley went into the record books not once but twice yesterday. He tied Babe Ruth as the only LH hitters to hit two HRs against a LH pitcher in the same world series game. On top of that he positioned himself to the top of the list for consecutive postseason games to safely get on base. Not bad to start the series. My only problem is the Fox broadcasters continued to say how CC was off his game last night. 7.0 IP 4 Hs 3 BBs 2 ERs. Not too bad by my estimation. He pitched well enough to win, but Lee just did it better.

Tonight will be Pedro vs AJ. I can’t wait to see how both AJ and Pedro deal with the pressure. Or lack there of with Pedro. The Yankees are in a must win situation with Burnett tonight and I can’t remember the last time that Burnett came up big in a pressure situation. I think that Burnett comes up big tonight and this thing goes to Philly 1-1. Go Phils!